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		<title>Paul at 23:32, 7 September 2010</title>
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				<updated>2010-09-07T23:32:57Z</updated>
		
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				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 23:32, 7 September 2010&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Here's an example of a peer reviewed wiki:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/september/encyclopedia-philosophy-090710.html Article]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[http://plato.stanford.edu/ Wiki]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think we need to create a mission statement.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think we need to create a mission statement.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I also think we need to lay out some ground rules prior to providing access.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I also think we need to lay out some ground rules prior to providing access.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;http://opengeodata.org/enough-is-enough-disinfecting-osm-from-poison?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Opengeodata+%28OpenGeoData%29&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[&lt;/ins&gt;http://opengeodata.org/enough-is-enough-disinfecting-osm-from-poison?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Opengeodata+%28OpenGeoData%29 &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;See this]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Summary of the poisonous people talk:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Summary of the poisonous people talk:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Paul: New page: I think we need to create a mission statement.  I also think we need to lay out some ground rules prior to providing access. http://opengeodata.org/enough-is-enough-disinfecting-osm-from-p...</title>
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				<updated>2010-08-17T22:51:00Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: I think we need to create a mission statement.  I also think we need to lay out some ground rules prior to providing access. http://opengeodata.org/enough-is-enough-disinfecting-osm-from-p...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think we need to create a mission statement.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I also think we need to lay out some ground rules prior to providing access.&lt;br /&gt;
http://opengeodata.org/enough-is-enough-disinfecting-osm-from-poison?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Opengeodata+%28OpenGeoData%29&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Summary of the poisonous people talk:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comprehension - understand the problem of poisonous people&lt;br /&gt;
*you need to protect the attention focus of community - limited amount of time&lt;br /&gt;
*poisonous people&lt;br /&gt;
*distract&lt;br /&gt;
*emotionally drain&lt;br /&gt;
*cause needless infighting&lt;br /&gt;
*slow you down&lt;br /&gt;
*either on purpose on by accident&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
fortification - protect project from poisonous people&lt;br /&gt;
*in a project you need politeness, respect, humility, trust&lt;br /&gt;
*have a mission, with examples&lt;br /&gt;
*have a scope, limit the mission&lt;br /&gt;
*do not let people reopen old discussions&lt;br /&gt;
*don't reply to _every_ message in a thread, summarise&lt;br /&gt;
*poisnous people derail discussion:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;it's a technique that poisonous people can use to derail a consensus-based&lt;br /&gt;
community from actually achieving consensus. You have this noisy minority&lt;br /&gt;
make a lot of noise and people look and say 'oh wow there is no agreement&lt;br /&gt;
on this' and if you look carefull the 'no agreement' comes from one person&lt;br /&gt;
while seven or eight people actually agree&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*document your projects history for future use to point people to&lt;br /&gt;
*have code collaboration guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
*email review, reasonably sized patches&lt;br /&gt;
*increase the bus factor so if someone drops out, others can take over&lt;br /&gt;
*have well defined processes for&lt;br /&gt;
*releasing software&lt;br /&gt;
*test / release cycles&lt;br /&gt;
*admitting new core people&lt;br /&gt;
*voting is a last resort in a healthy community&lt;br /&gt;
*everything else should be tried before a vote&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
identification - who are the poisonous people?&lt;br /&gt;
*it's usually obvious who will suck and drain your time&lt;br /&gt;
*usually use silly nicknames&lt;br /&gt;
*use CAPITAL LETTERS, !!!?!?!one!!, WTFLOLOMG&lt;br /&gt;
*hostility, demands help, blackmail, rile people deliberately&lt;br /&gt;
*accusations of conspiracy&lt;br /&gt;
*conceit, refuse to acknowledge arguments&lt;br /&gt;
*sweeping claims, reopen topics continuously&lt;br /&gt;
*lack of cooperation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
disinfection - removing the poisonous people&lt;br /&gt;
*assess the damage&lt;br /&gt;
*how are they affecting your attention and focus?&lt;br /&gt;
*are they distracting / paralysing the project?&lt;br /&gt;
_dont_&lt;br /&gt;
*feed the troll&lt;br /&gt;
*give jerks a purpose/purchase&lt;br /&gt;
*get emotional (stick to the facts)&lt;br /&gt;
_do_&lt;br /&gt;
*pay attention to newcomers, even if annoying&lt;br /&gt;
*look for the fact under the emotion&lt;br /&gt;
*extract real bug report / action&lt;br /&gt;
*know when to give up and ignore&lt;br /&gt;
*know when to boot from community&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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